J In article < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it ,  J This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it wrote <massive snip   Since we understand that making a decision to accept Jesus as   Savior,  J and accepting His teachings, is the same as being sealed or  J marked in the forehead by Jesus as one who is saved. We must also  J understand, that accepting the doctrine, teachings, or traditions  J of the Roman Catholic church or any other churches that follow  J these beliefs, would mean we accept the mark of the beast. Also  J understand there will be those that aren?t Catholic or even  J Christian. But they will do as the beast commands for fear of  J death, or loss of their livelihood from not being able to buy or  J sell anything unless he or she had the mark. Which is actually  J making the decision to accept the demands of the beast. These will  J be those who receive the mark in the hand because they were forced  J against their will. The true Catholic or any other Christian that  J accepts these doctrines of men will have received the mark in  J the forehead because they already made the free will decision that  J their church is correct in replacing _script_ures to match  J traditions or doctrines of men. I suppose that it would be  J folly to point out to you that just about every Christian  J denomination worships on Sunday rather than Saturday because it  J celebrates the rise of Christ from the grave on the third say,  J which was a Sunday. Well, yes, I'm sorry to say that it would.  J First you should examine the reason why 'just about' (you are quite  J correct to point out that it is not every one) all Christian  J denominations accept the change of the day of worship. The death and  J resurrection of Christ is celebrated in the Lord's Supper, a  J celebration that was introduced by Christ himself. So where did  J Sunday worship come from? If you examine a previous post I made on  J the subject Sabbith(sic) Keepers - Saturday_or_Sunday? you will  J find a long discourse on the subject (the truth of which has not  J been challenged). So let me add a few other statements on the  J subject:  J The sun was a foremost god with heathendom... The sun has  J worshippers at this hour in Persia and other lands... There is, in  J truth, something royal, kingly about the sun, making it a fit emblem  J of Jesus, the Sun of Justice. Hence the church in these countries  J would seem to have said, 'Keep that old pagan name. It shall remain  J consecrated, sanctified.' And thus the paagn Sunday, dedicated to  J Balder, became the Christian Sunday, sacred to Jesus (The Catholic  J World, March 1894, p.809)  J Sunday being the day on which the Gentiles solemnly adored that  J planet (the Sun)... The Christians thought it fit to keep the same  J day and the same name of it, that they might not appear causelessly  J peevish, and by that means hinder the conversion of the Gentiles.  J (Six Dialogues on the Lord's Day, p.23)  J From a Roman Catholic theologian, Thomas Enright, CSSR,  J President of the Redemptorist College, Kansas City, Mo.  J Prove to me from the Bible alone that I am bound to keep Sunday  J holy. There is no such law in the Bible. It is a law of the holy  J Catholic Church alone. The Bible says `Remember the Sabbath day to  J keep it holy.' The Catholic Church says, No. By my divine power I  J abolish the Sabbath day and command you to keep holy the first day  J of the week. And lo! The entire civilized world bows down in  J reverend obedience to the command of the Holy Catholic Church.  J (Feb.18th, 1884)  J Of course the Catholic church claims that the change was her  J act... And the act is a MARK of her ecclesiastical power and  J autrhority in religious matters. (Letter, 28th Oct. 1895 from  J C.F.Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons)  J Sunday is our MARK of authority... The Church is above the  J Bible , and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that  J fact. (Catholic Record, 1st September 1923)  J The authority of the Church could therefore not be bound to the  J authority of the _script_ures, because the Church had changed... the  J Sabbath into Sunday, not by command of Christ, but by its own  J authority. (Canon and Tradition, p.263)  J The Convert's Catechism p.50 says:  J Q. Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?  J A. We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic  J Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.  J From the Roman Catholic Doctrinal Catechism , p.174:  J Q.- Have you any other way of proving that the church has power  J to institute festivals of precept?  J A.- Had she not such power...she could not have substituted the  J observance of Sunday, the first day of the week for Saturday, the  J seventh day, a change for which there is no _script_ural authority.  J Or, to put it another way, the Catholic Church says the  J following:  J The Pope has power to change times, to abrogate laws, and to  J dispense with all things, even the precepts of Christ. (Decretal De  J Translat. Episcop. Cap.)  J To quote the Catholic Record of 1st September 1923 again:  J Sunday is our Mark of authority... The church is above the  J Bible and this transference of sabbath observance is proof of that  J fact and any Protestant who keeps Sunday acknowledges this.  J Protestant Churches that worship on Sunday are (perhaps  J unwittingly) accepting this mark of Catholic authority. They are not  J following Apostolic tradition as Sunday-keeping never was an  J Apostolic tradition.  J In the book of Revelation chapter 14 and verse 9 God gives us a  J solemn warning not to receive the mark of the beast. Everyone will  J have to make the choice as to whom they will give allegiance. The  J false church of the Sunday sabbath or God's true church that will  J have the mark, or seal, of God.  J God's church is described in Revelation chapter 14 verse 12 as  J keeping the (original 10) commandments of God and having the faith  J of Jesus. In chapter 7 of the same book the faithful are described  J as having the seal of the living God... on their foreheads.  J (Vs.2,3)  J What is a seal? A seal is something that is affixed to official  J documents to show the authority of the one who is doing the sealing.  J For example the seal of the Queen of England says:  J Elizabeth Regina - It gives her name  J Queen - It gives her _title_  J Of England - It gives her dominion.  J Where do we find the seal of God  J When we look at the fourth commandment there we find:  J it gives the name - the Lord God  J it gives the _title_ - Creator  J and it gives the dominion - the heavens and the earth, the sea  J and all that is in them.  J Ezekiel 20:20 says: hallow my Sabbaths, and they will be a sign  J between me and you, that you may know that I am the Lord your God.  J In Isiaih chapter 8 verse 16 we are told to bind up the  J testimony, seal the law among my disciples.  J Within the word itself we find evidence of the fact that the  J Sabbath contains the seal of God.  J The word Sabbath is made up of two words: Sab and Bath. 'Sab'  J means 'father'  J and 'ath (oth)' means 'sign,'  J the prefix 'b' before 'ath' means 'dwelling place'.  J So the word Sabbath means:  J 'The dwelling place of the sign (or seal) of the Father.'  J Then I suppose that according to you, we should not do such a  J thing and therefore not celebrate the rise of Jesus. Paul, your  J supposition is not only erroneous but un_script_ural. Where is the  J command to celebrate the rise of Jesus by worshipping on Sunday? You  J give no text to support your assertion.  J 1 Cor 11:25-26 After the same manner also he took the cup, when  J he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood:  J this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. [26] For as  J often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the  J Lord's death till he come.  J The Lord's Supper is there to remember Christ's death on the  J cross, made a celebration because of His rise.   That's very Satanic of you.  J No comment, Paul. Perhaps you would like to rethink your basis  J for making such a statement.  J love  J JB If your not living in Oklahoma JB, you're just camping out ! Dan Thurman - Home Sweet Oklahoma Wednesday, 3 December 1997 at 6:16. Fidonet : 1:170/302.15 - Internet : This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it .!. .!. TerCost there now is T-Shirt: .!. .!.                  /~_____/~ .!.                 /_/| T-  |_ .!.                    |Shirt| .!.                    |_____|