Sink The Bass Boats! Me, after a week on Lower Saranac Lake    BASS:  A slow lazy fish chased by people in floating Corvetts. I can't understand this.  We have one vein going in which trout are claimed to be superior to bass and another vein going regarding catching trout while CHUMMING WITH CORN!!!  A fish has got to be pretty stupid to go for that!  (I reallize that these are probably hatchery fish and that a REAL trout would NEVER go for CORN   Whoever said bass are slow??? I've tried to chase them while snorkeling with flippers.  They can move many times faster than I can!  And Lazy? During the hot summer months bass slow down a lot, I agree.  But during peak seasons they are highly active, sometimes moving over large ranges and chasing prey with ferocity.   I would also contend that bass are just as smart.  One piece of evidence . . . In a good 18 years of bass fishing I have NEVER seen a bass hit a lure with even a small shred of weed on it.  They know that natural things simply don't haul weeds around and won't hit anything with weeds on it. And fishing for bass is everybit as much of an art as trout fishing in my book.  Consistently catching bass requires the same levels of skill, knowledge, and patience.  Using the right lure, in the right color, at the right time, with the right presentation, in the right spot is just as difficult for bass as trout.  And who ever said that a flyrod is somehow naturally superior to a modern baitcasting outfit?   Now, I'll be the first one to agree that some bass fishermen can be extremely annoying with their high powered boats.  But please don't slam the fish itself.   Bass men unite!  We don't have to put up with trout fisher snobbery anymore!  

In article < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it (Kevin Siefering) writes: | Sink The Bass Boats! |Me, after a week on Lower Saranac Lake | |   BASS:  A slow lazy fish chased by people in floating Corvetts. | |I can't understand this.  We have one vein going in which trout are |claimed to be superior to bass and another vein going regarding catching |trout while CHUMMING WITH CORN!!! Uh oh.  I don't think this is going to be pretty.  And just after we were getting over the CAR debates... |Whoever said bass are slow??? I've tried to chase them while snorkeling |with flippers. And what would you have done if you had caught one. |I would also contend that bass are just as smart.  One piece of evidence . . . |In a good 18 years of bass fishing I have NEVER seen a bass hit a lure |with even a small shred of weed on it.  They know that natural things |simply don't haul weeds around and won't hit anything with weeds |on it. Natural?  Do you mean like spinner baits?  I remember quite a few years ago there was a crankbait lure made by Rebel (I believe) that looked like a small budweiser can.  Apparently it worked. |And fishing for bass is everybit as much of an art as trout fishing |in my book.  Consistently catching bass requires the same levels |of skill, knowledge, and patience.  Using the right lure, in the |right color, at the right time, with the right presentation, in the |right spot is just as difficult for bass as trout. Agreed.  Spot casting with a baitcasting outfit can be a challenge as well as a lot of fun.  I fish a lake that is basically a flooded canyon and many of the trees extend out into the water quite a distance. There's a lot of little nooks and crannys and dropping your lure into a spot a couple of feet wide and then watch the water explode when a hawg  slams the lure is quite a thrill.  So was the time that I was fishing from a canoe and hit a likely looking spot with precision accuracy, let it sit there for a few seconds, began my retrieve, and as the lure reached the boat and I was lifting the lure out for another cast, a three pound bass hit my lure and raced back to the spot that I had just hit.  I probably had about 9 of line out when the fish attacked (and attack is the best word for it) on the lure.  It was close enough so that I got splashed pretty good when he hit. |  And who ever said |that a flyrod is somehow naturally superior to a modern baitcasting outfit?   A lot of people fish for bass with a flyrod as well. |Now, I'll be the first one to agree that some bass fishermen can be |extremely annoying with their high powered boats.  But please don't |slam the fish itself.   | |Bass men unite!  We don't have to put up with trout fisher snobbery |anymore!  

Now, I'll be the first one to agree that some bass fishermen can be extremely annoying with their high powered boats.  But please don't slam the fish itself.   Bass men unite!  We don't have to put up with trout fisher snobbery anymore!   But trout fisher snobbery is so much fun!     and look at the rises we get!     Tim Sink the Bass Boats! Me, after a week on Lower Saranac Lake

And fishing for bass is everybit as much of an art as trout fishing in my book.  Consistently catching bass requires the same levels of skill, knowledge, and patience.  Using the right lure, in the right color, at the right time, with the right presentation, in the right spot is just as difficult for bass as trout.  And who ever said that a flyrod is somehow naturally superior to a modern baitcasting outfit?   When I go bass fishing here in Vermont, (Home of Orvis, BattenKill River, Lee Wulff, and many,many wiley browns, brookies, and rainbows) I take my spinning gear and my flyrod.  I love topwater bass bug fly rod action, but I also know that sometimes a spinnerbait or plastic worm is the only lure that will catch the bass that day.  I catch quite a few bass from my little canoe with a 3.5HP outboard.  One of the best things about fly rodding is catching fish on a fly that you tied.  Even though I would love a nice bass boat (I like the semi-Vee Trackers), they are still out of my price range.  Spinning gear is best when fishing in small groups on small boats.  I can't imagine three flycasters in my canoe. I have had three burly men and a young boy catching bass in my 17ft canoe.   Are trout a superior fish?  Yeah, right...I catch perch bigger than the average brook trout.  The most productive lure in Vermont for catching trout is still a hook with a nightcrawler on it.  You certainly do not need a $600 Sage Fly Rod to catch a trout.   Trout fishing...I bring an ultralight spinning outfit and a 5wt Sage. Adds a little variety and I can adjust to the changing conditions... you know how New England weather is... In summary, trout and bass are both great gamefish especially if you can fish for both in the same day and without having to lay out a bunch of cash.   John M. Connors Bass, Pike, and Trout Stalker

Trout:    * taste _much_ better    * fight a lot harder per pound    * generally live in lots nicer waters

In article < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it (Kevin Siefering) writes: | And fishing for bass is everybit as much of an art as trout fishing | in my book.  Consistently catching bass requires the same levels | of skill, knowledge, and patience.  Using the right lure, in the | right color, at the right time, with the right presentation, in the | right spot is just as difficult for bass as trout.  And who ever said | that a flyrod is somehow naturally superior to a modern baitcasting outfit?   | Why don't you fish for bass with a flyrod?  Taking both large and smallmouth bass on a flyrod is quite challenging and a blast on a 6 or 7 weight rod. Plus you can be a snob and fish for bass at the same time! :-} Joe